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Message: 4628
Author: john_elliott_uk
Date: 27/12/2004
Subject: Re: JSW64: Andrew's first beta-test of the game itself / JSWED
--- In manicminerandjetsetwilly@yahoogroups.com, andrewbroad
> [11] "The Hall" / "Ballroom West" [21]: Presumably the green Willy
No; Willy's colour is part of the room format. And he really is green.
> is a patch-vector, and is white for the purpose of collecting items
> and arrow-collision?
> [34] "Top Landing": Extra block-types for air, floor and wall. The
It is a patch vector; Willy enters each bathroom in round-robin order.
> many different variants of The Bathroom to the right of this room
> are easy to miss, as most players will not think to walk back right.
> Is this a patch-vector effect? What's the rule for deciding which
> room to enter?
> [49] "The Wine Cellar": No Block-Graphics Bug for the conveyor -
No block-graphics bug. And I'm not reintroducing it.
> sacrilege! ;-)
> In the interest of playability and item-completability (even though
I'm not entirely sure. Looks like a problem in the code that deals
> the JSW64 game itself is obviously an experimental prototype), here
> is my list of bugs:
>
> Why no items in "At the Foot of the MegaTree" [3], "On a Branch Over
> The Drive" [9], "The Nightmare Room" [29], "The Banyan Tree"
> [30], "Top Landing" [34], "Conservatory Roof" [43], and Rooms 50-60?
> Why only half the usual number of items in "To The Kitchens" [22]
> and "Cold Store" [25]?
with having 128 items instead of 64.
> [13] "Out on a limb": The ramp-floors behave as floors instead of
This is to do with the different way JSW64 models cells.
> ramps - also in the rooms from "Rescue Esmerelda" [14] to "On the
> Roof" [18].
> [27] "The Chapel": The ramp has lost its conveyor-effect (ditto
Bug in my original converter; it doesn't set the "escalator" flag
> re. "Halfway up the East Wall" [32]).
when converting. The converter in JSWED gets it right.
> [71] "Miner Willy Meets The Kong Beast": The left switch doesn't
Seems to be fixed on my version. I must update the copy on the group
> work, so the player has to reset the game (or use WRITETYPER), which
> is therefore not item-completable. I conclude that 83 items are
> collectable without cheating; I managed to up my total to 97 by
> apparating into "The Warehouse" (press '7' and '9' together in
> WRITETYPER mode).
some time.
> JSWED 2.2.2 <http://www.seasip.demon.co.uk/Jsw/jswed.html> seems to
Only 'cos you haven't seen JSWED 2.3.0 yet :-)
> be the most ambitious and extensive MM/JSW editor yet,
> After painstakingly navigating from "C:\Program Files\JSWED2\"
This is why it's a good idea to have users test your software. I
> to "C:\Documents and Settings\Andrew Broad\My Documents\RealSpec\Jet
> Set Willy\JSW64\JSW64\040721\JSW64v.tap", it informed me that it was
> an "unknown JSW64 variant" and refused to load it! :-(
hardly ever use the JSWED file browser, since I usually launch it with
a filename from the command line. As for the unknownness, I see a
comment in the code:
/* See if it has a suitable variant ID. Prereleases don't. */
which probably means the file format has changed since that particular
pack of prototypes was released.
> Furthermore, JSWED always starts browsing at "C:\Program
I'll fix that in 2.3.0.
> Files\JSWED2\", whereas the RealSpectrum emulator at least
> remembers the last folder used.
> JSWED cannot follow shortcuts to folders
Get a real OS :-) Or if you've got XP or 2000 and are using NTFS,
you can create junction links
<http://www.rekenwonder.com/linkmagic.htm> which act as real OS-level
links to folders.
> cannot look inside .zip files, and does not recognise TZX files.
Guilty as charged.
> But a JSWED snapshot to support the same convenience would obviously
Eep. There's no real way of snapshotting a Windows or Unix program,
> have to hold many more data than just the Spectrum's
> memory-contents.
unless the program itself supports it. The nearest you'd get is
frequent use of Quicksave (F2) and Playtest (F5), though of course
that doesn't give you a history of changes.
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